So I have met a new friend through spinning, let's call her Nancy. We go out for a sandwich or a drink sometimes after spin class and tomorrow, for the first time, we are both attempting, together, our first marathon four-hour class that supposedly knocks you on your rear end for a few days afterward.
I really like Nancy. She is almost 10 years younger than me, a single mother with a 10-year-old boy, and is really sweet, funny, smart, pretty -- but very lonely. She wants a boyfriend. She hasn't understood why she couldn't get one for so long after her marriage broke up. I keep telling her, feeling like some bitter old hag, to understand that a man is not the prize in life. The prize is her child, her happiness, her emotional well-being. The wrong man can screw all that up.
And boy, is she falling for the wrong man.
This guy is 50 and just out of his second marriage. In addition to the two marriages, he's also lived with two women for almost 10 years each, and had a child each with two of them. One of the women also had children from a previous marriage who grew very close to him throughout their seven-year marriage. Basically, since he was in his early 20s, he's jumped from one woman to the next with barely a single break.
The guy left every one of his wives and girlfriends, leaving a lot of broken-hearted women and children in his wake. Nancy actually knows one of his exes, who took her aside and tried to warn her about the fact that he is an effortless liar, a serial philanderer and a narcissist who needs BIG LOVE in his life all the time or else he gets bored and moves on to the next one. If the woman he's with fails to provide BIG LOVE almost constantly, he becomes resentful and looks elsewhere.
Nancy has convinced herself this woman is just bitter and is trying to sabotage his happiness because she still wants him for herself (I've met the guy briefly and how he gets so many chicks, I am not sure -- he looks a bit like Donald Trump but with slightly better hair ... ewwwwww.)
Anyway, I don't know what to say to Nancy. The guy has an excuse for every broken relationship, and in each case, including the case of his baby mommas -- one of whom he left for another woman while she was pregnant with his son -- it is the woman's fault for what went wrong. His women simply haven't appreciated his love. And this is the kicker -- all of the past relationships that have failed to make him happy, that he was driven out of by cruel and unloving women, have simply served to lead him to Nancy, the truest love of his life. Now his life has meaning! Now he knows what all the heartache was for! Uhhh-hhhuhhh.
I am the wrong person for Nancy to tell this story to, because I have my own complicated issues about love and commitment right now, but I have managed to listen to it for a few weeks as she ponders moving in with the guy. Impressively, I have managed not to kidnap this otherwise intelligent woman to save her and her child from the certain heartache that will come her way, perhaps not now, but at some point in the future.
All I can bring myself to do is to urge her not to ignore someone's patterns. Judge by someone's actions, not by his words. Look at his life. Do you HONESTLY believe all four of these women were awful, unloving shrews? He chose them. He loved them. So what does that say about him? And did they really turn on him? Or was he insufferable in some ways, causing them to turn on him?
I love women, I really do, but dear God we can be stupid about men sometimes when we're lonely and hurting. Nancy needs to take a step back and look at this guy intelligently and dispassionately because in all other areas of her life, she is so smart and successful and savvy. And yet for some reason she cannot. It is sad, but people have to make their own grim mistakes in life, I suppose. It's just hard to watch people do it when the gods seem to be shouting warnings from the sky: "Don't do it!!!!!"
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So true Jacy. I have a friend who is a divorce lawyer, was left by her husband yrs ago who then died a few yrs later leaving her with 2 teens to raise on her own. You would think she has seen it all, as she often tells me. But she is with a guy who was in jail for several yrs for embezzlement, his grown kids refuse to talk to him, his wife divorced him, he has "borrowed" thousands of dollars from my friend cuz he can't keep a job, and her response to me when I try to say anything is, "Love is an elusive emotion." It's so hard to respect someone like this even tho she is great in every other aspect. So I hang on and hope that one day she'll wake up.
Poor Nancy. I know a number of women like her...beyond stupid when it comes to men. You've given her good advice, Jacy, and there's probably not much more you can do. For her child's sake I really hope she thinks long and hard about this guy's abysmal romantic history. I have a cousin who never met an asshole she wouldn't move in with. Her son, sad to say, bears the tell-tale signs of a life of tumult.
"because in all other areas of her life, she is so smart and successful and savvy."
Oy. I've know a few women in this situation. And I guess many years ago, that was me, too (without the successful and savvy part). Extremely attractive, accomplished women who settle for the dregs because they don't want to be lonely. And trying to show them the truth of the situation will not work. They have to discover it on their own. And it's painful to see them mess up their lives and get hurt.
With all the books out there on this subject, why oh why do women keep repeating this mistake?
Did this guy leave the last marriage for Nancy?
No, he had a yearlong thing going with someone at work, and when he bolted on his wife, it sounds like she got freaked out and ended it (of course he has told Nancy she was psycho and downplayed the whole thing). It sounds to me though that the woman was smart and got spooked. Perhaps she did some digging around.
He let a few weeks pass and contacted Nancy, whom he'd had a brief flirtation with and knew through a friend of a friend.
Yep, it sounds like you've said all the right things. You could also add that if the guy is serious about her and truly interested, he'll let her take her time before moving in. What is the rush, really?
Nancy sounds dumb, sorry. What appeal does this guy have to her?
He talks a good game, tells her all the things she's been longing to hear, takes her places, wines and dines her, and fills her head with all the "my life has been leading to you" talk that I can't believe she is buying. Plus he plays the "poor me" victim very well.
I mean what about the other half dozen or so? They weren't the loves of his life? How many lives has this guy had?
Good grief, that dude has major issues. Here's to hoping he shows his true colors and breaks Nancy's heart before she moves in with him and puts herself in an even worse position.
(By the way, I realize that hoping he breaks her heart sooner rather that later is cruel but at this point that's probably the only way she'll see the light and move on.)
Hey, I dated "that guy"! What a prick he turned out to be.
Unfortunately, there's no way to stop that train once it's left the station. Call it a life lesson... a very emotionally expensive one. It's the part about the kids being involved which is particularly dismaying.
Sigh. Shrug.
When a woman steals your husband, there is no better revenge than to let her keep him.
I am starting to think there is a biological explanation for this type of clinging to a bad man. Any woman can get taken advantage of by a "sleeper" bad guy (being the 1st one he hurts/leaves is tricky to prevent). But it's another thing to look at a life-long pattern of broken hearts and divorces and still believe the man is a catch. It's a weird combo of narcissism and low self-esteem on the woman's part. Narcissism as in "I am THE ONE who will change him; I am special," and low self-esteem as in, "I can't afford to be picky and turn down anyone who shows some interest in me."
It is so illogical, and yet this behaviour is found in so many intelligent women (as all comments have said). That is why I think biology comes into it; like an instinctive nesting instinct in the woman gets triggered by pheromones or something, and can't be overridden by the logic of herself or her friends. It's the only explanation for this otherwise inexplicable behaviour!
Tell her to RUN AWAY. Ted Turner just ain't worth it.
This guy sounds just like my now-ex-boyfriend. And I sound a lot like Nancy.
You can try to tell her he's not worth it...or you could nail Jello to a tree. This has to do with her issues of self-worth.
I'm also of the belief that the people in our lives are a mirror of ourselves. This guy is probably reflecting back to Nancy some part of herself that she needs to see - maybe the part that wants someone else to manage her well-being and self-esteem? Only Nancy could say for sure...and it may take a long time for her to do that.
When it comes to relationships and choices, you have to be willing to see the truth of things without making yourself or anyone else wrong - or right, even - for it. Once you've recognized what your truth is, then you can get to changing it if you don't like it.
Good luck to Nancy. She's gonna need it.
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