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Wednesday, January 17, 2007
A good Trainwrecks thread
Fans and detractors debate whether Trainwrecks was a good thing.
Update: Trainwreck refugee sites have been set up here and here. They're not like the old homeland, but maybe some day....
2nd Update: The second Trainwrecks refugee site linked above turns out to have been set up by the HN gang, alas.
OK, I've sussed out the debate on TWs. I know know what HN is. Still in the dark on VA (and seeking enlightenment.)
My question is: is this stuff being taken so seriously because people really care what other people say about them on blogs, or is it because the Internet citizenry is feeling its way through the lawless, uncharted territory of the web and trying to establish rules and etiquette about these things?
Well, I've certainly gotten in trouble in the past for being critical of people on their own blogs, which is how this one got started.
I mistakenly though that if you started a public blog, you wouldn't be overly sensitive about criticism. Otherwise why start a public blog?
Apparently I was WRONG. Lots of bloggers expect non-stop nice (but only to them and their friends) and are always asking plaintively why we can't all get along.
I guess it's the nature of this new democratic medium. Traditionally scorned writers have confined their complaining to booze sessions with fellow writers and literary hacks, and kitchen conferences with long suffering spouses.
Writing to the paper to complain about a bad review of one's book was considered frightfully overly sensitive. You were supposed to understand that negative criticism, fair or unfair, was part of the job and take it all with a stiff upper lip -- and a stiff scotch.
Trainwrecks came into being so that sane blog readers could laugh at crazy blog writers in the same way that sane work colleagues have always laughed at the crazy ones, and people have always made fun of Margaret Atwood and David Suzuki.
Some people, however, find this hard to understand and insisted on labelling Trainwrecks, what it most certainly was not, a "haters club."
Yes, that RTK inaugural post explained a few things - that was one Mo-Fo coven of Mummy bloggers you were mixin with. I can see the affinity TW but I still don't get the thin-skinned response to crit, discussion or debate?
If you put your words out there, aren't you inviting disucssion? Isn't that what Comments are for?
I want to liken blogs to salons and leaflets of the 18th century... but you have to wonder if they aren't just another individualist outlet for the rantings and ravings of the entitled...
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OK, I've sussed out the debate on TWs. I know know what HN is. Still in the dark on VA (and seeking enlightenment.)
My question is: is this stuff being taken so seriously because people really care what other people say about them on blogs, or is it because the Internet citizenry is feeling its way through the lawless, uncharted territory of the web and trying to establish rules and etiquette about these things?
Well, I've certainly gotten in trouble in the past for being critical of people on their own blogs, which is how this one got started.
I mistakenly though that if you started a public blog, you wouldn't be overly sensitive about criticism. Otherwise why start a public blog?
Apparently I was WRONG. Lots of bloggers expect non-stop nice (but only to them and their friends) and are always asking plaintively why we can't all get along.
I guess it's the nature of this new democratic medium. Traditionally scorned writers have confined their complaining to booze sessions with fellow writers and literary hacks, and kitchen conferences with long suffering spouses.
Writing to the paper to complain about a bad review of one's book was considered frightfully overly sensitive. You were supposed to understand that negative criticism, fair or unfair, was part of the job and take it all with a stiff upper lip -- and a stiff scotch.
Trainwrecks came into being so that sane blog readers could laugh at crazy blog writers in the same way that sane work colleagues have always laughed at the crazy ones, and people have always made fun of Margaret Atwood and David Suzuki.
Some people, however, find this hard to understand and insisted on labelling Trainwrecks, what it most certainly was not, a "haters club."
Now I am off to do a trainwrecks style post.
Yes, that RTK inaugural post explained a few things - that was one Mo-Fo coven of Mummy bloggers you were mixin with. I can see the affinity TW but I still don't get the thin-skinned response to crit, discussion or debate?
If you put your words out there, aren't you inviting disucssion? Isn't that what Comments are for?
I want to liken blogs to salons and leaflets of the 18th century... but you have to wonder if they aren't just another individualist outlet for the rantings and ravings of the entitled...
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